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Leslie Cheung
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« on: 04 February, 2010, 07:00 AM »
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Dear Director,

This happened 2 days ago.
South opened 1D and West overcalled 1D.
What is the correct ruling?
West had an opening hand with diamond, EW card for 2D cue bid is 19+
(At the table, North made things easy by accepting the call, knowing that I was the "trainee" director)

Thanks.
Leslie
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« Reply #1 on: 04 February, 2010, 10:55 AM »
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You are quite correct in thinking that West cannot bid 2D so I would think if North hadn't accepted the bid, West's only option would have been to take a punt on a call and partner is barred from the remainder of the auction.
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Leslie Cheung
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« Reply #2 on: 05 February, 2010, 10:39 AM »
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Can West double 1D?
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Ed Reppert
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« Reply #3 on: 05 February, 2010, 11:22 AM »
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No.
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« Reply #4 on: 06 February, 2010, 09:16 AM »
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Leslie Cheung asks "Can West double 1D?" - the only time that would be allowed is if, systematically, the double gives all the information in the original bid (opening hand, diamond suit).  I have seen 1NT used in this way, but not a takeout double, which usually implies a shortage in the suit being doubled.  So, I'm inclined to agree with Chris, the IB can be replaced with any sufficient bid or pass (not double) and partner is barred for the rest of the auction.

Peter.
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« Reply #5 on: 06 February, 2010, 09:41 AM »
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Cheers Peter - are you going to the Gold Coast?   Can you shed any light on the thread I started about a month ago re "Wrong Level" - only one reply so far and that was from ME !
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Leslie
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« Reply #6 on: 06 February, 2010, 06:51 PM »
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Dear Chris,

I should ask all these in one go.

Will the lead restriction still apply to East if the auction goes :
1D - P - 1H - P
2H - 3D - 4H - all pass

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Leslie
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« Reply #7 on: 06 February, 2010, 08:11 PM »
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My opinion would be that there would not be any lead restrictions because West has now specified the withdrawn suit (diamonds) in the legal auction (Law 26A1).

However, I am ready to stand corrected by the experts  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: 13 February, 2010, 12:35 AM »
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It would be very rare that the player who bid the insufficient could convince the Director that there would be another call which conveyed the same meaning as 1D. Therefore, the partner will be required to pass throughout the auction.

In terms of Law 26, if the player who made the insufficient bid made a bid in diamonds at any time during the auction (including at his first turn to call), then there would no longer be any lead penalties.
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